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Bloody hell, Mark Gatiss, BLOODY HELL. It is a bit like he had a list of all the things I judge about his eps and decided SOD IT I AM GOING TO PROVE YOU WRONG, RANDOM INTERNET PERSON. PS I SHALL BE DOING IT WHILE STICKING TO MY TRIED AND TESTED FORMULA OF PRETENDING I'M WRITING SEVENTIES WHO.


  • TEAM VASTRA. Awesome. I love them. I love the Doctor has proper friends like this who very much have their own lives but he gets to pop in and out and they are so shiny and awesome and have their own amazing adventures and they are not from Modern Earth Times and OH IT IS JUST LOVELY SEEING THEM AGAIN. This also very much had the feel of "would this work as a spin-off"? Which I assume wouldn't actually happen because the world is not that pander-y to me, but it's nice to know that yes, yes it would work MARVELLOUSLY.

  • Vastra is my fav but I loved that Jenny got such a great chance to shine. From her investigating skills, her cunning bribery, her lockpicking, courage and, of course, the MOMENT OF AWESOME where she rips off her Victorian dress to reveal a Victorian Emma Peel style catsuit and gets into a bit of fisticuffs. It's enough that, yes, I'm prepared to forgive the lack of sword-fighting.

  • Clara got a not too shabby moment too, with her chair, well done her. Also many points to JLC for her EXCELLENT FACE when she said "I'm the boss?"

  • Jenny's reaction to the Doctor snogging her is win. The Doctor is terrible kissy this episode. Three of em!

  • DIANA RIGG. Oh, is she not just brilliant? And that character was pure classic Who megalomanaical crazy villian with a plan to destroy the world (Harrison Chase was the one that came most to mind for some reason) and that's the sort of Gatiss type thing that I might be having a complaint about because it is pretty retro characterisation, except maybe the writing was not awful and Rigg was awesomesauce and seemed to be having a ball. Totally conkers and ridic entertaining. And some fantastic deliveries (the "that's very funny" line made me lol, the way she said it.)

  • Her daughter was just as good. And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe that's the first female disabled character we've had in Doctor Who? And the first sympathetic disabled character in the New Series? And one of three sympathetic disabled characters there've been in the whole series?

  • Ada losing it with her mother was brilliant. And her divided loyalties, and that we got her story as well, with the Doctor as her monster and her devotion to her mother and her loneliness and her doubts, and that we got such a great mother-daughter relationship. And she didn't forgive her mother and she squished the bug. She got to be angry about stuff! And get past her anger and move on and not have to be lovely about things that were rubbish for her.

  • NO VASTRA/JENNY KISS. BOO. They really need to have one. The only other thing I was judgey at was Matt Smith's stiff walking acting whilst covered in red paint. Cause it just looked so silly.

  • Oh, the flashback thing! That was rather fun and different. Much enjoyed. And the whole episode looks great as well. I mean, it's period drama, ahem, more or less, and it's the BBC, so, yeah, it's all looking very shiny.

  • And Jenny being "wtf are you talking about re Clara?" was great, as was the Doctor's face when Jenny told Vastra cause she doesn't take "don't know/not telling" for an answer (but sadly didn't seem to really pursue it.) And Jenny had a GREAT FACE that she aimed at Vastra when the Doctor kissed Clara.

  • AND THEY WERE A TEAM. And the Doctor even called them a gang. I LOVE TEAMS. And this lot just make me so happy. I love the characters and dynamics and humour and WE COULD HAVE THEM EVERY WEEK MAYBE PLS.

  • GRATUITOUS OLD SKOOL REF. Winning. (Tegan and Heathrow airport and "brave heart, Clara".)

  • And, yay, the Doctor was going to take Mr Sweet home. That's the proper Doctor. As was not giving up on stepping between Ada and the gun even when Diana Rigg kept shooting at him.

  • So, yeah, Gatiss. Let's pretend he decided he was going to fix the stuff ppl have a go at his writing for:

    1 - No/very few women - Five main female characters in this ep, plus two minor ones. (Clara, Vastra, Jenny, Diana Rigg, Ada, that Victorian lady helping them out, and one of the kids' Clara looks after...and the fainting lady. Three minor then.)

    2 - Writes women badly - Didn't have any issues here. Jenny was written especially well. The villain was proper old skool villainy, and there's a definite lack of women playing that "I'm destroying the world for my own total bugnuts reasons, mwahaha!" role in Who.

    3 - Never writes relationships between women - Diana Rigg and Ada, I thought was excellent. It felt real, or truthful, anyway. Vastra and Jenny, obv, though not much time spent on them.

    4 - Always with the father-son issues - Heh, it's a mother-daughter, at last, and both are great characters. They definitely have issues and plenty of screentime to explore em.

    5 - That bloody awful bit in Idiots' Lantern where Rose encourages the kid to forgive his abusive father - "He's your Dad," she says, which is just awful, cause it's that guilting obligation-y thing where just cause you're related by blood you should always forgive/put up with shit/work to preserve a relationship. And here we have a complete reversal. "Forgive me," says her mother. "Never," says Ada. And she's not punished for it - when we see her next she's calm, confident and ready to go out into the world.

  • In conclusion, this really is Gatiss' best episode, (Did I say that last time? I bet I did. I MEAN IT THIS TIME) and it is Doctor Who that I would open up like a present and watch when I require cheering. A PROPER WINNER.

  • Oh. Good. The rubbish Cybermen are back next week. But I like that it looks as though Clara's kids have blackmailed her into a trip through space and time, lols. I would so have done the same thing.

    Incidently, female marriages were an accepted thing in Victorian Britain. History ain't a constant march upwards to ever more progressive times: the recognised gay marriages of the 19th century were anathema through much of the 20th.

Date: 2013-05-04 07:34 pm (UTC)
elisi: (We are married)
From: [personal profile] elisi
ALL OF THIS! ♥

ETA: 1 - No/very few women - Five main female characters in this ep, plus two minor ones.
Plus, all the men (bar the Doctor & the human doctor, who was mostly there for exposition - did he even get a name?) were there to be victims, or faint. I thought that a rather neat reversal. :)
Edited Date: 2013-05-04 09:52 pm (UTC)

Date: 2013-05-05 01:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] neadods.livejournal.com
I enjoyed the fainting very much; it was such a gender role reversal.

Date: 2013-05-04 07:36 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] nonelvis
I enjoyed the hell out of this episode, which is genuinely not something I thought I'd ever say about a Gatiss episode. It's possible it's just my ridiculous love for Diana Rigg and the Paternoster Gang talking, but I don't care, because they were all put to great use here.

MORE LIKE THIS, PLEASE, MR. GATISS.

Date: 2013-05-04 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] iamrman82.livejournal.com
So much awesome in this episode. Jenny and Strax both got their time to shine. Strax wasn't as comic relief-y this time and actually got to do away with the villain. I would have liked to see Vastra do more as well.

The Doctor's attempt at a Yorkshire accent was pretty funny as well. 'Trouble down t'mill'.

Also, was I the only one thinking that the whole human mannequin thing was a little similar to Carry on Screaming. The only thing missing was the villain screaming 'FRYING TONIGHT!!'

Crimson Horror.

Date: 2013-05-04 07:45 pm (UTC)
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Date: 2013-05-04 07:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stick-poker.livejournal.com
That was somehow, despite being on paper a serious episode about serious issues, one of the most fun episodes there's been in ages. And you're spot on with all the Gatiss issues being blitzed. And the stiff-walking acting was terrible, but I think that was the point where I realised that this episode was going to be so silly I'd love it.

Date: 2013-05-04 08:02 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] radiolaires
It was very fun, campy WTH fun, but fun, and as you said very much "old skool".

And an Emmapeeler in an episode in which plays the wonderful Diana Rigg! YES.

Their team was perfect! I want a spin-off.

Not my favourite of the season but in term of 'light' episode, it was quite a ride. I love Gatiss's humour : Thomas Thomas the GPS... And Strax was maaaarvy.

Date: 2013-05-04 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] brunhilde-1013.livejournal.com
I have a horrible, wonderful crush on Rachael Stirling, so this episode (with the added bonus of Diana Rigg!) was pretty much the best thing ever. Plus, a disabled sympathetic character - her "monster" was sympathetic and worrying at the same time - that really came across as a fully fleshed-out character who didn't have to apologise for the terrible things her mother was responsible for...gosh, I've lost the thread of my comment. I LOVED it on so many levels.

Date: 2013-05-04 10:15 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pointytilly.livejournal.com
I must see this episode. Must.

Date: 2013-05-05 08:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] quean-of-swords.livejournal.com
I agree, it's pretty much the best Gatiss episode we've had so far.

Date: 2013-05-06 12:02 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sabotabby
It was all so great! I mean, I've enjoyed the last few but this is my favourite of the season so far and had everything I like in it.

Date: 2013-05-06 11:54 am (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] tree_and_leaf
And she's not punished for it - when we see her next she's calm, confident and ready to go out into the world.

In fact, her steeliness even gets her mother's dying approval - admittedly if I were Ada, I'd feel a bit ambivalent about the affirmation of "that's my girl", given what a nasty and abusive piece of work Mrs Gillyflower was, but I thought it was a clever bit of writing, and psychologically quite convincing.

Date: 2013-05-06 08:29 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] flowsoffire.livejournal.com
Agreeing with all of this! Team Vastra rules :D

Date: 2013-05-06 08:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] oboetheres.livejournal.com
I just want to say that I am very,very glad that I found this, wonderful post. I absolutely adored this episode, and I just want to read about other people liking it too, damnit!

Date: 2013-05-11 10:50 pm (UTC)
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From: [personal profile] sea_thoughts
It is nice to read a review from someone who loved this episode as much as I did. :)

Date: 2013-05-19 03:07 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rhoda-rants.livejournal.com
Here via [livejournal.com profile] fatpie42's recommendation, and I also very much want a Vastra/Jenny kiss scene. Hell, I want a whole Vastra/Jenny spin-off, because they rule.

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