carmen_lj | Regarding Who reviews...

If you read my Who episode reviews, you probably know I prefer Moffat Who to RTD Who and when writing up an ep will often make comparisons between the two, generally speaking in Moffat's favour cause, heh, I think it's better. I also prefer Williams to Hinchcliffe and Lambert to Wiles. And while I don't tend to name classic producer eras (except when hating on Hinchliffe, mostly done re new toy releases, though no-one complains about that), I will compare stuff in New Who favourably or unfavourably to stuff in classic. I did in RTD Who time too (and I don't remember anyone saying "stop comparing Doctor Who eras!" then either. Maybe they did and I missed it.)

If this is a problem for you, or harshing your squee or whatever, maybe skip the review? We are two and a half years into Moffat Who, and I've written something about every episode. It's not exactly a surprise I think in pretty much every respect Moffat is making better Who, and I ain't going to stop saying so.

ETA: And the stuff I talk about is relevant, because it's the first changeover of companions in Mofftiem and of course I, and other people, are going to be comparing it to the collossal fuck-up of what happened last time. It is not bashing to talk about what I don't like in a telly series I love, and yes, on the whole I do love RTD Who.

Please bear in mind that I am not going into anyone's journal telling them what to watch or how they are wrong or how to be a fan. I'm not having a go at anyone personally, either producers or fans in my posts. I'm not even talking about Who in a community. I am talking about my opinion of a television show in my journal. So I'd appreciate not being told what I should or shouldn't say in my own bloody space. Thanks.

ETA2: Just to respond to something specific that I can't now as it was deleted: many people may bemoan fans still watching the show despite not liking it any more while they criticise aspects of the show under the previous showrunner as they squee about new episodes but I AM NOT ONE OF THEM. So I don't see why this is aimed at me. Go right ahead and keep watching Who and hating it online! I don't care! It happens in every fandom, and it's something I particularly associate with Doctor Who since, heh, we've been hating on the show we love longer than most. So, please, take the complaint of double-standards to someone who's actually engaging in them.

ETA3: I mean, is it just RTD and Moffat that some would prefer I don't compare? Can I still have a go at Hinchcliffe (Hinchcliffe, who I say I hate btw, never said that about RTD)? Can I compare the writers and say I like Chibnall better than Gatiss? Can I explain why I think Evelyn is the worst companion ever? Why I hate Talons? Why Curse of Black Spot is cack? Is negativity permitted or is it just one must never express a strong pref re RTD and Moffat? ENQUIRING MINDS.

ETA4: I really am quite annoyed. I should go have some nice healthy pasta and pesto.

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It was not, no.

Okay, but what you said does apply to my posts, cause I do do that.

I'm not angry, and I never was. I *was* annoyed. I'm not now. I *am* confused that you're ignoring what I've said from the very first comment: that, yeah, I thought it a bit annoying, but no, what you said is *not* the main cause of this post. And I PMed you explaining what happened and why I was annoyed. Which you've also ignored.

Perhaps it really is my fault for being stupid or graceless or something I don't know.

No, you're not. I've explained what I was responding to and why. I've not attacked you or insulted you. I know you said earlier this was "full-on attack mode" but I don't think it is, I think I've expressed disagreement and annoyance in a fairly civil manner (course, YMMV), and, again, mostly it's *not about you*.

I haven't responded to the pm because it contained something that makes me uncomfortable and that I never respond to. I'll send you a pm to explain why, which I probably should have done sooner. I'm sorry about that. I wasn't ignoring your point about me being only part of your problem, all my comments have been made on the basis that you've said I've been rude and annoying but that most of your annoyance was directed at someone else. I only ever thought it was partially about me, I'm sorry if I didn't make that clear and made you think I was ignoring you.

At this point I don't know what else I can do except say that whether or not you choose to accept it my apology still stands. I've decided to stay out of DW fandom from now because I'm clearly terrible at it (no-one's fault but my own) so FWIW I won't be committing any repeat offences.

I wouldn't say "rude and annoying", I found it *a bit* rude, yeah, and I was *a bit* annoyed, but that's hardly an unusual thing for me in fandom. Loads of stuff annoys but I forget about it the next day. I wrote a post here because of a combo of the same annoyances happening at once. And the upset I've caused you seems rather a lot greater than the annoyance I felt, and I'm sorry about that.

I don't think you need to give me an apology. I just wanted to respond to what you said but clearly I made an error in conflating things that perhaps shouldn't have been conflated in this post. And it's all come across more aggressively than what I intended? I intended to express my POV and, yeah, in a kind of snarky way, but it wasn't meant to be something that made you feel got at or attacked (cause it's not like there haven't been a couple of people who've said pretty much the same as you). Or like you were rubbish at fandom. It was meant to be me saying I am not at one with with this particular fannish viewpoint PS I am really wound up about the way someone expressed this viewpoint.

You complained about something. I complained back. If that's enough to make you think you're terrible at fandom, I don't know what to say about that really. You're not terrible at fandom. You maybe didn't expect a casual comment at the end of a post to get a post responding to it and it all felt a bit arg cause you've been intermittent for a bit? I should wait until I've calmed down before making posts? I've become too used to the blogosphere way of things? I don't know. I do think it's all got a bit silly.

And the upset I've caused you seems rather a lot greater than the annoyance I felt, and I'm sorry about that.

Thanks, I appreciate that.

I feel like I'm terrible at fandom because I'm unable to predict the effect of my words, and because I'm ridiculously ill-equipped for these situations. It's not just your post, it's the responses and at least one post from another person all being unanimous how right you are to be annoyed and such - it's probably paranoia has me feeling everyone judges me Wrong and Bad for being too critical but you crit me (amongst others) and get cheered, but it feels like that anyway. So either I can conclude that you and everyone else are a bunch of rotten meanies keeping me down or I accept that, at very least, I've made a fundamental misstep along the way. The latter seems rather more likely. I just... don't understand. I mean, literally don't get it, like I don't know the rules of social interaction or something and, not for the first time, it's kind of like I've stumbled into a lacrosse game but I only know hockey. It's not the rowing per se 'cause I got into plenty arguments when I was into hp on account of acting mean and bolshie myself and that wasn't so bad, it's a combined sense of not knowing what I'm doing and I can't deal.

Anyways, it's not your fault, I just wanted to explain. I wish you all good times and happy things in DW fandom 'cos you deserve it, and I'll work on my social skills and finding someplace that's a fit for me.

So either I can conclude that you and everyone else are a bunch of rotten meanies keeping me down or I accept that, at very least, I've made a fundamental misstep along the way.

Go for the rotten meanies option.

The commenters are agreeing, but the ones that won't agree won't have commented (cause, y'know, kind of scary disagreeing with both the post *and* all those people who might then comment to them saying "no, you're wrong"), but they will exist and think "wtf is she whining on about?" I honestly don't think anyone is judging you. If they look at your post it'll be to go "why the dickens is she [me] makng such a bloody fuss?" if they assume that's all I'm talking about.

But you didn't do anything wrong. What I think a bit off, others will think a perfectly reasonable comment on the state of fandom.

It's not really rotten meanies or you messed up, there's a whole sliding scale of options in between.

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