Rise of the Cybermen

[carmen_lj]

Ra! It is under the cut. Comment things. That could be interpeted as some sort of review type whatsit.

OMG! OMG!

• MICKEY IS DA MAN MICKEY IS DA MAN!! SO MUCH LOVE! DUDE!
  
  
• That was fabulous, so much love. This was not purely because the Doctor was in a tuxedo. IT WAS NOT. Though he was beautiful in that suit. They must surely release that as an action figure, yes? Yes. Good. I await with much anticipation.
  
  
• That opening was so very Venegence on Varos (or Frontios, possibly). "Oh noes! My TARDIS is broken! We is doomed forever!" (*headdesk* on part of viewer for we KNOW it will get fixed) Luckily instead of Peri, Ten has Mickey who CHECKED OUTSIDE. "London, baby!" says Mickey. "Oh, Mickey," says the Doctor, "I mock only with love!" Gosh, he is a wee bit mean to Mickey in this one, and Mickey knows it, but still THERE IS LOVE. Mickey gets good stuff here. And I love that bit in the TARDIS where he and the Doctor fix the TARDIS. I know Mickey does not actively help, persay, but I firmly believe his mere presence caused the TARDIS not to give up, woo!
  
  
• In maintaining my Evidence for Romana/Doctor OTP, here we see Exactly What Ten would look like if he ever saw Romana die (she is NOT DEAD, dammit) as the TARDIS is the closest thing he has to a Romana at the moment and the sadness and hopelessness is so very thinking of Romana when the TARDIS cops it, yes. Dude.
  
  
• Oh my, oh my, those Cybermen were scary. And a bit Tenth Planet with their voices (but, y'know, unlike TP, you could make out what they were saying) and OH MY GOD THEY KILL YOU WITH TOUCH. It is scary, it is, it is. And that cliffhanger was just OH MY GOD, SO DOCTOR WHO. And the Doctor was desperate and fabulous and dramatic and the Cybermen were SO SO SCARY. I had the fear, and my pillow. Which was not actually my pillow but I was clinging to it and that was good.
  
  
• Rose, dear, dear Rose. WILL YOU NEVER LEARN? Listen, to the Doctor. He knows what he's talking about. Ra. But she doesn't, and she does not irritate in this episode (much). Funny how I'm much more sympathetic to seeing Mickey's family than Rose's. Ahem. Also, how long before fandom starts talking about the relative wealth of the two Tyler families and WHAT THIS MEANS?
  
  
• This was so much action-advanture fun. Plenty of lovely location stuff and the sky looked cool. And there was running and sekrit headquarters and VANS! With TEAMS! In manner of the Mystery Mobile! Dude! That was truly fabulous. I do love alt-Mickey, and his resistance team.
  
  
• I know the President was in Rising Damp, but where I know him from was that episode of Red Dwarf with the holoship and Lister says he's gonna whip him with a holo-whip. So my ability to take him seriously somewhat diminished. Though, omg, what a death scene. That was great.
  
  
• Same goes for Trigger. He almost, almost did it. And it was a very good, very scary performance, and I've clearly just watched too much Only Fools and Horses. Great character.
  
  
• And, just, yes, tragic creation, those Cybermen. A man who doesn't believe he should die. Though it's not really clarified whether it's because he doesn't want to die, or doesn't think the world could go on without his genius, and I hope his actual motivations are made clearer because I really want to know, but there's certainly plenty to infer from. And anyone else find that he reminded them a bit of Davros? Not just the wheelchair, but the lines and the intonation?
  
  
• So another ticking in What The Time Lords Actually Did box. In addition to stopping worlds that had messed with time travel being eaten alive by Reapers (Father's Day), they also oversaw safe travel between the alternate dimensions. And I think, given the absence of a Time Vortex, that it's pretty safe to say there aren't any Time Lords in this dimension, which would imply the Vortex was created by the Time Lords (another ticky box) in order to allow time travel. Or the TARDIS simply couldn't connect to the AU Vortex...but the Doctor did say it was Just Gone, so the whole thing's open to (interesting, yay!) interpretation. (I do wonder whether the Doctor's fervent reminders to Rose that it is not her Mum and Dad are more him telling himself that Time lords in other dimensions are not his Time Lords, or, (more Romana/Doctor, yay) he once found an AU Romana after he (thought she) died in his universe, and IT WAS NOT HER AND HE HAD TO LEAVE AND IT WAS ALL AWFUL AND TRAUMATISING. Yes. That's what I think happened. Well, that and he's shit scared of AUs after what happened the last time. In Inferno, yo.)
  
  
• And in addition to No Annoying Preview pre-credits, the announcer Did Not Talk through the middle eight, hurrah! Shiny music!
  
  
  So, in conclusion, much love (heh, that's five for five, unsurprisingly) and desperately looking forward to next week. Ra!

Comments

[matildabj.livejournal.com]

Brilliant episode. Loved it.

[calapine.livejournal.com]

It was Proper Scary, zomg!

[sea_thoughts]

MICKEY IS DA MAN MICKEY IS DA MAN!! SO MUCH LOVE! DUDE!

I concur. With bells on.

Luckily instead of Peri, Ten has Mickey who CHECKED OUTSIDE. "London, baby!" says Mickey. "Oh, Mickey," says the Doctor, "I mock only with love!" Gosh, he is a wee bit mean to Mickey in this one, and Mickey knows it, but still THERE IS LOVE. Mickey gets good stuff here. And I love that bit in the TARDIS where he and the Doctor fix the TARDIS. I know Mickey does not actively help, persay, but I firmly believe his mere presence caused the TARDIS not to give up, woo!

Well, if it had been Rose, they would just have sat around CHATTING. ;P Mickey is the guy with the technical know-how.

And that cliffhanger was just OH MY GOD, SO DOCTOR WHO. And the Doctor was desperate and fabulous and dramatic and the Cybermen were SO SO SCARY. I had the fear, and my pillow. Which was not actually my pillow but I was clinging to it and that was good.

Yes, it was wonderfully desperate. "But we surrender!" "But this is a SURRENDER!" Ah, nothing like David Tennant screaming...

Rose, dear, dear Rose. WILL YOU NEVER LEARN? Listen, to the Doctor. He knows what he's talking about. Ra. But she doesn't, and she does not irritate in this episode (much). Funny how I'm much more sympathetic to seeing Mickey's family than Rose's. Ahem. Also, how long before fandom starts talking about the relative wealth of the two Tyler families and WHAT THIS MEANS?

They should never have had Rose? *lol* God, you know that's what she was thinking for most of the episode: if they hadn't had me, he'd still be alive and they'd be rich. You're probably more sympathetic about Mickey's family because it hasn't been shoved in our faces? Just kidding, I love the background, but we know about Jackie and Pete by now, we don't know about Mickey's grandma.

This was so much action-advanture fun. Plenty of lovely location stuff and the sky looked cool. And there was running and sekrit headquarters and VANS! With TEAMS! In manner of the Mystery Mobile! Dude! That was truly fabulous. I do love alt-Mickey, and his resistance team.

Dude, I didn't even get the Mystery Mobile reference! Thanks for that. I did like Ricky. Ricky was hard, man. Plus, his put down to Rose? Classic.

I know the President was in Rising Damp, but where I know him from was that episode of Red Dwarf with the holoship and Lister says he's gonna whip him with a holo-whip. So my ability to take him seriously somewhat diminished. Though, omg, what a death scene. That was great.

I just love Don Paterson's voice, man. He's like our James Earl Jones.

Same goes for Trigger. He almost, almost did it. And it was a very good, very scary performance, and I've clearly just watched too much Only Fools and Horses. Great character.

You didn't see "Goblet of Fire" then? This was more of the same, only he got to act properly crazy. Me love. :D

And anyone else find that he reminded them a bit of Davros? Not just the wheelchair, but the lines and the intonation?

I think there might have been some deliberate homage going on there. *nod nod* Not that we mind, because hey, if anyone should pay homage to Doctor Who, it's Doctor Who.

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Yes, it was wonderfully desperate. "But we surrender!" "But this is a SURRENDER!" Ah, nothing like David Tennant screaming...

That scared me more than Anything Else in the New Series ever has, oh my.


You didn't see "Goblet of Fire" then? This was more of the same, only he got to act properly crazy. Me love. :D

Aye, I did, but I was trying not to think about that for the Doctor Would Have Been His Son.

[sea_thoughts]

David Tennant screaming? I suppose he hasn't screamed much, has he? You know it's bad when the Doctor starts screaming.

You didn't see "Goblet of Fire" then? This was more of the same, only he got to act properly crazy. Me love. :D

Aye, I did, but I was trying not to think about that for the Doctor Would Have Been His Son.

OH MY GOD, YOU'RE RIGHT! Bad Starsea, bad.

It's a tribute to David Tennant that I completely forgot about that. (Or it could be that his time in the film amounted to about 10 minutes.) Ha ha, trying to think how the Doctor could be John Lumic's son... how to make your brain explode in five seconds flat. XD

[soupytwist.livejournal.com]

I watched with my only other Whovian housemate, and we both turned to each other at the same bit in the pre-credits sequence and went "It's DAVROS!" Twas most amusing. :D

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Yo! It took me forever to decide that it might be a proper homage rather than just, omg, dying guy, for it wasn't till towards end that I thought the intonation really was going for a Davros-esque feel, yes.

[and-i.livejournal.com]

Mickey! *flails wildly*

My hate of Rose is becoming very fully fledged lately. I wish it wasn't. I'm just...not keen on the All About Her, but that's not so bad, because they comment on that in the show itself (did I mention I love Mickey?) That conversation between Rose and the Doctor and the look on David Tennant's face throughout. It wasn't "omg i should have asked about Mickey, I'm a bad person" which I appreciated.

[calapine.livejournal.com]

My Rose dislike has receded since T&C. I think that may have been its height, and she was alrighty in this one rather then merely meh. Mickey was da man! YAY!

[tau_sigma]

Oh the love! You mention all these things I thought of but forgot, and others I didn't think of but love to have pointed out to me, and of course the Ten/Romana, yes!

In fact, I hadn't thought of the parallel with Davros, but now you mention it, yes. The wheelchair and such was, y'know, very pointy in that direction acutally. And so sad, that he thinks he has to make the human race like this because otherwise he will die. Interesting parallel with Cassandra.

I will stop rambling now, sorry. *g*

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Everything is about the Doctor/Romana dude. *nods*

[(Anonymous)]

Lumic's in the wheelchair 'cause Trigger broke his hip, or his legs or something right before filming. Any and all similarities to pre-existing Doctor Who mad scientists are purely coincidental.

But wasn't this episode just so old skool? Mad science! Evil corporations! Plucky rebels! Place bets on the rebels being killed off over the course of part two, with Ricky gasping out some poignant words to Mickey (or vice versa) before he croaks.

[calapine.livejournal.com]

It works really well though, yes. Um, hurrah for accidental breakage?

It was Fabulously Old Skool, I have very, very much love.

[tabimendou.livejournal.com]

And in addition to No Annoying Preview pre-credits, the announcer Did Not Talk through the middle eight, hurrah! Shiny music!

That's been the first time that's happened so far this series, hasn't it? I always pay attention to it because it's always that part that makes me go "*shiver* Ooh *-*" and the announcer always talks through it >O

So that made me very happy this week ♥ as well as all the "OH EM EFF GEE OMG OMG OMG SO GOOD"ness that I haven't managed to work into a coherent review yet XDD

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Yus, that is me favourtie bit of the music and the one bit that is as Magic. Truly.

I flail at the scariness of the Cybermen. Somewhat glad am not eight years old, yes.

[glow-boy.livejournal.com]

"Rose, dear, dear Rose. WILL YOU NEVER LEARN? Listen, to the Doctor. He knows what he's talking about." If a companion ever did that half the stories in this show wouldn't happen. Or at least be a lot shorter. *g*.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

Icon love! That eyebrow waggle is so marvellous.

[glow-boy.livejournal.com]

It is isn't it. Sadly I didn't make it. I have a complete lack of skill with such things. It was made by snowgrouse. Who also made this one.

[lesbiassparrow.livejournal.com]

*falls off chair laughing*

[calapine.livejournal.com]

But Romana never had that trouble, noes. Also she knew better. There were stories in series 17. I remember them. :p

[glow-boy.livejournal.com]

Yes but Rose isn't a several hundred year old time lady. Yet. If you believe some of the speculation. I'm sure Romana did get into trouble occasionally but I think the Doctor did more when she was the companion. Someone has to and if the companion is too sensible... *g*.

[padawanpooh.livejournal.com]

Brill review as always, Calapine.

Huzzah for Mickey!

Boo! for Rose!

Can't wait for next week ;-)

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Mickey is da man! ::dances him lots::

[spiralsheep.livejournal.com]

I think the Doctor actually said the TARDIS couldn't connect to the parallel universe.

Unspoiled CLIFFHANGER!!1!! Yay!

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Ra! I shall have to watch again. I want details about that for ficness.

Oh, oh, the Unspoiled Cliffhanger was GLORIOUS. I hope it is start of new policy, yes.

[spiralsheep.livejournal.com]

I think the Doctor said that the time vortex didn't exist in the parallel universe and the TARDIS couldn't draw energy/power from the parallel universe because she couldn't connect to it but I could be wrong. :-)

"DELETE!"

[gwynnega]

Well, that and he's shit scared of AUs after what happened the last time. In Inferno, yo.

He doesn't want to run into Eyepatch!Brig and Mean-yet-Hot!Liz Shaw again!

And you should write that AU Romana fic!

[calapine.livejournal.com]

I is already writing AU Romana fic for School Reunion, zomg. Yes. He would surely love to see mean yet hot!Liz again, yes. He should do that. That should be written, Yes.

[gwynnega]

I is already writing AU Romana fic for School Reunion, zomg. Yes.

Hooray!

He would surely love to see mean yet hot!Liz again, yes. He should do that.

I bet mean yet hot!Liz would like mean yet hot!Mickey (i.e., Ricky!).

[casirafics.livejournal.com]

I know the President was in Rising Damp, but where I know him from was that episode of Red Dwarf with the holoship and Lister says he's gonna whip him with a holo-whip.

THAT'S what it was! I knew I'd seen him before, and I was thinking Red Dwarf, but I couldn't place it... bwah, yes. thank you.

[reapermum.livejournal.com]

I know the President was in Rising Damp

And the night before he was a "Grumpy Old Man" and that's a show I love (maybe because I'm a "grumpy woman" (I'm not admitting to old NOOOO!))

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Ah, I have heard of that programme. One of the parentals sympathises with it, yes.

[calapine.livejournal.com]

Ra! Tis one of me favuirte episodes of RD, yes. Joyous! ::Dances::

[jonquil.livejournal.com]

Damn, those were some scary Cybermen. (Even though I kept flashing on the Iron Giant, who was a nice guy.)

They can make Daleks scary. They can make Autons scary. They can make Cybermen scary. I wonder if the new production team can make green-bubble-wrap-monsters from Ark In Space scary?

Naaah.

[jonquil.livejournal.com]

P.S. Since Rose can clearly get anything she wants from the Doctor with Bambi eyes, even when it's a really good idea, why isn't she getting sex? Would any of us fail to use that power for good?

[calapine.livejournal.com]

The concept of the Wirrn is rather terrifying, thpugh if they had to use the bubblewrap I think they would fail to get that across, yes.

[dune-drd.livejournal.com]

To that last point: I always had the impressions there weren't any AU Time LOrds at all, don't know, we never saw them, did we? I always thought that's what made the AUs alternative and not 'right'... or is this just me and my stupid mind?

[calapine.livejournal.com]

*shrug* Tis a perfectly valid supposition. If you're going by telly!canon, there's nothing to suggest it one way or the other.

If you're going by book!canon, then there are Time Lords in alternate universes. (In The Face of the Enemy, for instance, we meet the Master in the same alternate universe that the Doctor visited in Inferno and in that universe he never became evil.)