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There's a whole bunch of stories I'm meant to be writing just now (finally started Romana-thon thing, and should have something vaguely decent, and, for some mad reason I signed up for three things at [livejournal.com profile] whofest, I've written one, half-finished one and the other is Big Long Plotty Thing, woe) but what I really, really want to write is a nice long Rose fic.

Cause, think Nos pointed this out, yes, she really does seem to get a raw deal in fic, operating as half of a pairing most of the time. And there's a definite lack of fic about Rose the Person, and that's a shame. She's a nice person, y'know. And I like Rose a lot when she's by herself, cause that's when she does Teh Good Stuff. She can think fast, she can organise, she's brave enough, she's a good people person, she's curious and she asks questions. So, yes, I want some nice, long plotty post-Doomsday fic about Rose. Not her moping or thinking about the Doctor and how to get back to him, or even focussing on anything to do with that very much. But about her.

And even telly did that to her most of the time, where she fell into place as Ten's shadow as soon as he appeared and took over, with her just following along quite happily. Hurrah for The Idiot's Lantern! Where I care not a jot that the Actual Practical Benefit of her going and investigating was nought. The point is that She Went, She Investigated, and, yes, she got her face sucked off, but then I think any companion in that situation actually would have ended up Faceless (er, 'cept Romana, for she had her own sonic screwdriver, and maybe Ace would have blown the tellies up...but that's not The Point.)

And Satan Pit is fab for Rose, displaying at once: "Yes, I am good at some stuff! But also, woe, I am sometimes a whiny idiot too!" For the crew would, I believe, have been a bit falling apart without Rose. They might be all experienced at the Space Stuff, but she's the one who's used to dealing with Scary-Weird Alien Threats. And they were the sensible people who said, "The Doctor's dead, let us leave," while she was a bit daft. This makes me happy, she does silly things, people acknowledge that they are silly (oh, I forgot about that for ages, but, dude, the crew are so "WTF are you on?" with her Mad Insistence on staying and it is Great.

I'd add in stuff about Rose in Fear Her here, but I've only seen it the once, and I cannae remember exactly what she did, but I know there were Darn Fine Rose bits in there somewhere.

So, yes, SP for the Win for Rose. And, more Rose-as-Person-In-Her-Own-Right would be A Good Thing.

Date: 2006-08-14 12:36 am (UTC)
ext_17485: (dw - little red riding hood)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Glancing at my previous post, I didn't separate my points as clearly as I perhaps should have. I don't think that canon should have given us yet more Rose -- it's just that I feel at times as if her S2 arc was almost a reversal of growth. I'm not sure if I liked S1 or S2 better, but I did prefer S1 Rose. *is a bad person*

I sort of lean towards this a bit, yes.

It seems to me as if there isn't too terribly much character-introspective gen of any sorty floating around these days. It just surprises me (much) more with the volume of Rose fen, though.

Aye, fair point really.

And, yes, would have thought numbers would mean at least a handful of Rose centered fics, but fandom's still in post-Doomsday recovery. And I'm being rubbish and impatient because I'm awful blase about companions leaving.

Date: 2006-08-14 12:55 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherryice.livejournal.com
And, yes, would have thought numbers would mean at least a handful of Rose centered fics, but fandom's still in post-Doomsday recovery. And I'm being rubbish and impatient because I'm awful blase about companions leaving.

I feel that I've a bit that way myself -- I have just come into Who, but I've been acquainting myself with the (sometimes crack-tastic) joy of the old series, and I can't quite get myself too worked up over people leaving.

I think it's possible that what fandom needs is a character-driven gen ficathon. Or ficathon where past companions get on with their lives, and are content.

Err, perhaps that's just me.

Date: 2006-08-14 01:02 am (UTC)
ext_17485: (dw - the girl from linda)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
I have just come into Who, but I've been acquainting myself with the (sometimes crack-tastic) joy of the old series

The Time Monster is sheer crack-tastic madness. It are also ma favourite story ever. I think everyone should watch its Awfulness, yes.

I think it's possible that what fandom needs is a character-driven gen ficathon. Or ficathon where past companions get on with their lives, and are content.

Err, perhaps that's just me.


*POKES*

Date: 2006-08-14 02:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherryice.livejournal.com
The Time Monster is sheer crack-tastic madness. It are also ma favourite story ever. I think everyone should watch its Awfulness, yes.

Oooh. I have not seen that one yet, having had really no idea where to start with the Jo and Liz stuff. I shall have to see about acquiring it.

*POKES*

This is encouragement, yes? But the question is, which one? I think I would love more dearly to see past companions getting on with their lives, but a general gen one might have a bit wider of an appeal.

Date: 2006-08-14 01:14 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Um, both are good. I am all for more gen, poor underdog that it is, yes.


Liz's stuff is all fabulous in Actual Proper Objective way, thouh can be very slow. It's very Quatermass-y, but in colour.

Jo's (deliberately) appalling in her first story, but becomes becomes lovably inept.

Date: 2006-08-16 04:25 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cherryice.livejournal.com
*nod* I am rather partial to gen myself, to the point of having my own little pet community [livejournal.com profile] gen_fen, which does what it says on the box in a multifandom way. Only no one uses it, and it makes me sad.

I will probably have to so this, but only after [livejournal.com profile] romanathon is over, and I have poked any stragglers into submission with my (friendly) mod stick.

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