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Oh, oh, so despite its rather obvious brilliance, last week's Whoness was a bit hrrm for self as the Doctor was mean. Really, really mean. And then there was meta and sometimes I shouldn't read it because it was good meta and it said things that made sense and such and I agreed with the logic but it made me very sad as that's not what My Doctor Who is about and, um, sometimes I really hate the way that bits of New Who crush my childhood into tiny pieces make the Doctor not very Doctor-ish at all. Even Six only shoved those people in the acid bath by accident. Probably.

Anyways, to cheer self up I done watching of The Time Monster. For anyone not familiar with this astonishing piece of television, it's usually held up as the worst of the Pertwee stories (which is Wrong because that's Monster of Peladon for Death By Boredom) if not one of the worst of the series ever. I Do Not Know Why This Is. (Yes, that's a lie, it's blatantly obvious how awful it is, anyway...) But I love it. Madly and Unreasonably. And here is why you should too, yes:


  • Ruth and Stu. Oh, god, they are the Double Act of Dreadful and must be adored for the sheer gall of having the nerve to say the lines they're given with straight faces. "Simmer down, Stu," says Ruth when he's late for work. "Men! It's their conceit that bugs me," she exclaims when the Master patronises her, then apologises and goes away to annoy someone else. "God save the good ship women's lib and all who sail in her," says Stuart supportively. Well, quite.

    "Men! Why are you all so spineless?" she asks a little later. To which Stuart replies, "I'm not men. I'm Stuart Hyde, registered, card-carrying paid-up coward."

  • Benton. Ah, Benton, The Time Monster contains both your finest moment and your most embarassing, within thirty seconds of each other. First, he fails to be fooled by a trick phonecall from the Master, then grabs a ladder and sneaks into a first floor lab to catch him. Then the Master says, "Look behind you!" and Benton, poor sod, does so and gets clobbered for his trouble. Oh dear.

    Also, he gets turned into a baby and is very naked at the end when he gets turned back and John Levene is on the verge of corpsing and it is quite wonderful.

  • Episode 4. An episode that takes place almost entirely within the Doctor's TARDIS and (exact same set, not even dressed differently) the Master's TARDIS, with them flirting outrageously snarking at each other the whole time. It's a six-parter, there's going to be padding, but An Entire Episode Of The Stuff? Marvellous! (For, y'see, I adore padding, when it's good paddding - a pox to the plot! I want people to bumble around talking to each other for episodes on end.)

  • Jo, bless her heart, is perfectly adorable throughout. And the Doctor and her are very in love. And she gets a "groovy" dress and the most astonishing wig to wear and she knows Greek.

  • "Mike! Get out of there Mike!" Oh, the Brig shows how much he loves Captain Yates by calling him Mike when he is about to get bombed and it is quite marvellous. And, actually, a proper smashing cliffhanger.

  • TOMTIT. Oh, why? Just, why? Why would you make up that acronym? What good reason could you possibly have? CHEAP LAUGHS, MAN. Very cheap. And they keep saying it, all the bloody time, cause that's the time of the Magic Skience Project the story's about, yes.

  • "Nothing and nobody can stop me now!" Always a winner, yes.

  • Ingrid Pitt. For she is win, and wearing pretty dresses that appear to have been designed purely to show off her cleavage. And she's got more mascara on than Rose Tyler. Then she sort of gets her island destroyed casue she's a bit vain, heh.

  • "If the Thrascan puts his fingers in his ears, it is polite to shout. Old Venusian proverb." "What's a Thrascan?" "Oh, it's an old Venusina term, seldom used since the fifth dynasty. The modern term's Plingh." "What's a Plingh?" "Oh, for heaven's sake, Jo, I've just told you, it means Thrascan." Yes, I'm that easily amused. Shutup.

  • Hand!pr0n. Just like the New School stuff where they do the ultra close-ups cause they can't show teh sex.

  • "Brigadier! Do fuck up!" Seriously. That's what the Doctor shouts to the Brig and you can hear it quite clearly when they're grabbing their cars to race to Captain Yates, yes.

  • The oven. Which is the Magic Skience Project. It is an oven turned on its side. This pleases me greatly.

  • Man in a bird suit! Oh, the best ever monster on Doctor Who ('part fae the Giant Clams, of course) is a Highly Unconvincing Bird Man With Big Flappy Wings. The lesson: never underestimate how little money the production team have.

  • "That creature really swallowed him up?" "Ah, it's a nice point: yes and no. Yes, it engulfed him, no, it didn't actually eat him up." Jo and the Master and it's the delivery that is quite prefectly awesome, yes.

  • "Can't think of anything to say?" "How about curses, foiled again?" Oh, Doctor & Jo, very mean at the Master, yes. Just because he completely failed to kill them. Again.

  • The awesome levels of OTT acting in Atlantis, the astonishingly unconvincing wigs and the terrifying amounts of eyeliner. Then Darth Vader David Prowse shows up with a bull's head mask and the director, in a truly remarkable decision of daftness, decides that stark lighting is the best way to tackle the problem of a godawful Minotaur costume.

  • And Jo saves the universe! The entire whole blinkin' universe! All by herself! The Doctor can't do it, because he can't bring himself to kill he, but Jo's all for dying and saving creation, so well done her, yes. Last year she accidently saved the world, this year she saves everything and knows exactly what she's doing. Hurrah!



To conclude: The Time Monster > Everything.

Date: 2007-06-08 06:03 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
Ooh. I need to see this.

Sorry, but the Most Crap Monster in Doctor Who (at least the eps I've seen) is the guy wrapped in green bubble wrap in The Space Ark. BBC budget at its finest.

Date: 2007-06-08 06:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
Also, I rewatched the disturbing bits of "Family of Blood" last night and I am terribly divided.

Point A. My Doctor does not torture people. Ever.

Point B. The Doctor is disturbingly hot when torturing people.

Oh, the dilemma.

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Date: 2007-06-08 06:19 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
That bit wasn't sarcasm! The Giant Clams are the best Monster ever! Dude! Harry puts his foot in one! It makes me v, v happy, yes. *nods*

And poor AiS, they weren't to know how popular bubblewrap was to become.

Date: 2007-06-08 06:29 pm (UTC)
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ahem *Myrka* ahem. Warriors of the Deep is crap monsters FTW.

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Date: 2007-06-08 06:17 pm (UTC)
From: [personal profile] fannishnonsense
Nah, the Nimon is the best monster ever.

Also, Three/Jo is canon. Which is ok, cause Jo is kind of awesome.

Date: 2007-06-08 06:21 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Does Harry stick his foot in a Nimon? Does he?

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Date: 2007-06-08 06:20 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
"Even Six only shoved those people in the acid bath by accident. Probably."

There's something about that quote that's just glorious in its own way. :-D And I didn't grow up with DW, but I still watch my Threes and Fours and feel sad as to what's become of it all.

Date: 2007-06-08 06:23 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] violetisblue.livejournal.com
And Three and Jo are so very much in love and it's sweet and stuff. So there.

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Date: 2007-06-08 06:25 pm (UTC)
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I really be needing it to go somewhere and for him to be fixed and he can't be fixed really because what's happened is so huge and all my unreasonable!irritation at bye-bye Gallifrey from when EotW was broadcast I feel is Totally Justified now cause it wasn't as though he didn't have Angst before, dammit.

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Alternatively...

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Date: 2007-06-08 06:32 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ionlylurkhere.livejournal.com
Yay for Time Monster love!

I delayed seeing it for pretty much forever out of its bad fannish reputation and when I did I couldn't understand why I'd waited. I don't even think it's so-bad-it's-good, I think it's actually good, simply for taking its cracktasticness and running with it. Plus I am a sucker for plots that actually involve time.

Date: 2007-06-08 06:44 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Mwah! Hurrahs! Oh, so-bad-it's-awesome for self. And I have a weakness for decent actors being given a cack script and just going with it as best they can.

Date: 2007-06-08 07:12 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordon-r-d.livejournal.com
I tend to ignore fannish reputation, I'd never have watched The Gunfighters if I'd listened to fans and would have missed much entertainment (although not necessarily in the way the production team intended.)

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Date: 2007-06-08 06:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] some-stars.livejournal.com
oh, I desperately need my proper computer back now so I can acquire this. I want flirting and birdsuits!

Date: 2007-06-08 07:07 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
It's terrible. I do want to emphasise the sheer awfulness of the actual script, which is awful. Yes.

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Date: 2007-06-08 07:05 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gordon-r-d.livejournal.com
I liked the new TARDIS walls. The production team didn't though, so chucked them out. Fools.

I love it so much I burnt it onto a disc and made a DVD cover for it. :)
http://pics.livejournal.com/gordon_r_d/pic/0008c056

Also, the ongoing batlle between Ingrid's cleavage and Katy's legs for most distracting body part in the story. (A battle which for some people, is won by John Levene in the closing moments...)

Date: 2007-06-08 07:09 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Wheee! Oh, there is a story in one of those BF books about how the Master changed the TARDIS roundels just to annoy the Doctor and make him waste time figuring out how to change them back. It is such a pointless retcon that I hold it in v high regard, yes.

*love at cover* Dude. They are never, ever going to giv eme that DVD, woe.

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Date: 2007-06-08 07:45 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] arefadedaway.livejournal.com
"Brigadier! Do fuck up!" Seriously. That's what the Doctor shouts to the Brig and you can hear it quite clearly when they're grabbing their cars to race to Captain Yates, yes.

After that, there isn't any logical reason why someone wouldn't love TTM. Really. And, also, glove!porn. I'm a very simple and easily pleased creature.

Date: 2007-06-09 03:47 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Glove!porn, with ring!porn! Oh, it is the most perfect story ever made maybe actually, yes.

Date: 2007-06-08 07:56 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] spiralsheep.livejournal.com
I adore padding, when it's good paddding

Dialogue =/= padding. Padding is when Whatisface, the new chappie, spends half the episode gurning.

"Brigadier! Do fuck up!"

Buck up, b, u, c, k, buck, dammit!

Date: 2007-06-08 09:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
Padding is fifty-seven shots of schoolboys with their guns. Look! Schoolboys with guns again! Now we'll do schoolboys in corridors! And it's time for your favorite show... Schoolboys With Guns!

God forbid they should show, y'know, the things they're shooting at.

By the way the scarecrows are totally Most Crap New Skool Monster. What are they going to do, give you hayfever? No weapons, no talons, just the ability to loom menancingly And they die when shot. What self-respecting Who monster isn't immune to bullets?

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Date: 2007-06-08 08:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dune-drd.livejournal.com
I adore the Time Monster, you just summed up why.
Naked Benton! Whee! I like Chronos when he/she/it is out of its/hers/his Bird Costume better, though.

Is there Chronos/Doctor fic? There should be, I bet that's the reason heHelp Don't auto-format: Help
Message: survived the Time War

Date: 2007-06-09 03:48 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
She has very shiny eye make-up of gold! Like Rose as Time Vortex/TARDIS a bit, yes.

Date: 2007-06-08 10:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bonniegeorge.livejournal.com
Come now, Calapine! Your take on Chronos is blighted by your age. When I was four years old, I loved 'The Time Monster'. I loved it for the Master, for Atlantis, for TOMTIT (I wanted one of those), and, of course, for the High Comedy Ending. But most of all, I loved Chronos! What a terrifying spectacle, the sight of Chronos going wild in a laboratory, eating the hell out of everybody in sight. That was Doctor Who at its very best. Of course, in retrospect, it looked a bit awful - I know this now. Things have changed; my cynical nature has set in.

But I recall all the same that at four, as I said, Chronos was just fine. Not my favourite monster by a wide margin, I will admit, but an acceptable one. And that was just fine, because this is the sort of story which is designed to appeal most to one of my tender age, who just likes something terribly imaginative. Even the Myrka, at such an age, looked just fine, however abysmal he was. And that Giant Rat was bloody amazing.

But the Vardans - my God. Even then I knew they were rubbish. Even then! Say what you will about the others, but the Vardans are the worst monsters ever, ever. Ever.

Date: 2007-06-09 03:51 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
But they sparkled! Charmingly! Surely one cannot be so judgey on a monster that sparkles so well?

Alas, I firt saw The Time monster as the not-so-tender age of sixteen and was thus blighted by cynicism and jaded so I could not appreciate the true terror of a man flapping enthusiastically in an unconvincing birdsuit.

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Date: 2007-06-09 02:39 pm (UTC)
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I am at a loss to argue.

Date: 2007-06-09 03:53 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Excellent.

Date: 2007-06-09 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-mardy-bum.livejournal.com
Sorry, not connected to your post but saw this and had to let you see it, IF ONLY FOR THE LAST FEW SENTENCES:

'The Doctor v Love' article (http://www.kasterborous.com/articles.asp?id=942)


:)

MB

Date: 2007-06-09 04:26 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
One True Love! Trufax!

Date: 2007-06-10 12:54 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bramblyhedge.livejournal.com
Word! Besides, nothing can beat the "daisiest daisy" speech. :)

Date: 2007-06-11 07:10 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Trufax!

(that's a proper good bit too, hurrah!)

Date: 2007-06-12 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lycoris.livejournal.com
I has desperate longing to see this story and always have. WHY MUST YOU TORMENT ME WITH THE CLEAR AWESOMENESS OF IT?! *cries*

Date: 2007-06-16 01:13 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] firebrand164.livejournal.com
If you can get on to YouTube, the first part is here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jW6g6TG0KAs) and you can just follow the links to the other parts :-)

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