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Saw. Anyone else unreasonably love seen those movies? Cause that's what I thought when I saw the trailer. Omg! The Doctor is Jigsaw! Noes! (Note: when told "of course there's no gore" by guy you know full well adores gory horror and is dragging you to a horror movie, do not trust, hrrm.)

Anyways, words! In bulletpoints!


  • Weeping angels, covering faces, that's one incredibly fabulous image, yes. And cheap horror! Oh, god, I love cheap British horror. A shot, a shot, a shot, of different angels

  • Boo, I thought it said '63 at first, which would have been wonderful and made me happy in A Very Cheap Way, still Troughton!time, yay!

  • Oh, I love that Sally has a friend she can wake-up at one in the morning and break into her house and phone her and make her coffee and she goes along with that and it makes me v v happy, yes. Oh, god, Katthy! Poor Kathy, but how wonderful is she? How brave and clever and marvellous is she? Quite a lot, I thinks, yes.

  • Ee! Thievin' from Back to the Future, heh. Oh, and making it horrible and twisted and she has a provisional driving licence.

  • It's like a magical puzzle-box thing, this plot. It is a a beautiful, wonderful, marvellous thing indeed. Like, modern, clever, slightly higher budger Hammer. *SO MUCH LOVE*

  • "You told him you were eighteen, you lying cow." Oh, Kathy/Sally FTW!

  • "When you say 'with the guys' you mean the Internet, don't you?" Heee! :D

  • Feck, angels trying to get into the TARDIS, now that is scary, man. (And, naively, at this point, I believe *this* was going to be the scary bit.)

  • "No mess, no fuss, just zap you into the past and let you live to death." Cool! I quite love the villain!concept here, and how it is all new and shiny and such and that is always crazy!difficult nowadays, yes.

  • And, really, barely even noticed the absence of Martha and the Doctor. For *this* is how to make me love characters in five minutes flat and care and support and cheer. (I'm looking at you, 42.)

  • And time travel! A proper time travel plot! DW hardly ever goes with these, despite the nature of the show and here we have the perfect example of the Sheer Awesomeness possible with the concept.

  • And Perfect Timing - this story was beautifully paced, and that's a rarity for the New Series, me feels.

  • "I'm clever and I'm listening and don't patronise me because people have died, now tell me." Why, yes, Sally, I love you.

  • And the Weeping Angels are as old as the universe. What a surprise! I suppose we should just be grateful they're not from the Dawn of Time. And they're "the loneliest creatures in the universe," omg! Lonelier than the Doctor, dude! He!

  • You're not looking at the statues, dudes! OH MY GOD OH OH. [livejournal.com profile] nerdcakes and I may have screamed, quite a lot, quite loudly. I have never actually screamed at Doctor Who before. I have shrieked, once or twice, but never an actual scream.

  • AND AGAIN! OH GOD THIS IS TERRIFYING!

  • GET IN THE TARDIS OMG! (Oh, the cakesy one and I might be Quite Traumatised by this point. Oh dear god.)

  • SURROUNDED WHY DOCTOR WHY YOU DO THAT??

  • Oh. Oh, that's quite clever. Well done Doctor. That's the sort of trickery I can get behind. That's my Doctor, man. Yes. Very much.

  • So, to conclude, the scariest Doctor Who episode ever. if only Mary Whitehouse was alive! Any chance of this coming up in House of COmmons questions? Cause if my little cousins were freaked by thr scarecrows, goodness knows what they made of this, heh.



To conclude, brilliant, utterly.

Date: 2007-06-09 07:19 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Boo, I thought it said '63 at first, which would have been wonderful and made me happy in A Very Cheap Way

Me toooo because then I could have had Ten/Fitz and Martha with Barbara or Ian or Susan and it would have been the most marvellous thing ever. Sadly, if they'd been in 1963 I guess they could have borrowed the TARDIS from Totter's Lane while One was out and resolved the whole thing without Sally.

Date: 2007-06-09 07:23 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (Default)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Oh, oh, and he tries to nick it and gets caught and that would be perfect!fic, yes.

Date: 2007-06-09 07:25 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
It is tres sad that I am at this moment trying to work out which companions are back on Earth in 1969 (Barbara, Ian, Ben, Polly, Dodo, Victoria) and which ones haven't met the Doctor yet.

Date: 2007-06-09 07:27 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (romana - time repeating angst)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
By sad, I assume you mean BRILLIANT.

Date: 2007-06-09 07:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
It's not as if they've got any money, the obvious thing is to do the circuit of ex-companions' spare bedrooms...

Date: 2007-06-09 08:35 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Quid pro quo! Only fair!

Date: 2007-06-09 07:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narm00.livejournal.com
The Brigadier's around, as are Liz, Jo, Sarah and Harry (although UNIT dating is involved).

Others: child!Tegan, baby!Peri and likely baby!Mel.

Date: 2007-06-09 07:43 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
Jackie Tyler is 2 years old - Jack's presumably somewhere with Torchwood, though the Doctor wouldn't know that. Of the non-telly companions, Charley and Fitz might be around if they were left back to their own time periods (not that likely in Fitz's case).

Date: 2007-06-09 07:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] narm00.livejournal.com
Plus Fitz is already in 1969, having been brainwashed by the Red Chinese (Revolution Man).

Date: 2007-06-09 07:50 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] doyle_sb4.livejournal.com
There's a point - he has a complicated timeline, that boy. Oh, and Eight is somewhere with amnesia!

Date: 2007-06-09 10:53 pm (UTC)
evil_plotbunny: (unit)
From: [personal profile] evil_plotbunny
Given Sarah and Jo's ages, they'd probably be teenagers in 1969.

Ooh. Plotbunny.

Date: 2007-06-11 01:57 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nummymuffin.livejournal.com
This is such an awesome thought. I'm not even one who reads lots of fanfic but I'd imagine the possibilities for fun stories could be nearly endless.

"You told him you were eighteen, you lying cow." Oh, Kathy/Sally FTW!

Haha, this line made me laugh loudly!

Date: 2007-06-09 08:02 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pontisbright.livejournal.com
That makes 3 of us then. :)

Date: 2007-06-09 08:36 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (Default)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Win for group-mind!

Date: 2007-06-09 08:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
I screamed. So very loudly. *heart still pounding a little*

Date: 2007-06-09 08:37 pm (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Oh, well done! I fiel it's an, um, achievement, of a sort.

Date: 2007-06-09 08:37 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] loneraven.livejournal.com
*cliiiiiiiiings* it was scaaaary.

Date: 2007-06-09 08:41 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (sarah jane - greeness!)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
Very Much So. And I am way judgey at Moffat for the Montage To Creep You Out Just Incase Your Weren't Already Traumatised. Dude.

Date: 2007-06-10 06:26 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jonquil.livejournal.com
I am applauding madly and offering to have his Internet-based babies.

Date: 2007-06-09 08:47 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] staceyuk.livejournal.com
WORD. I enjoyed this one muchly. Even though there was little Doctor this story did not suffer for it. In fact having those little moments enhanced it.

Date: 2007-06-09 08:53 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (romana - with hat)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
It is like the remembered how to do Proper British Sci-Fi, and then just to make it perfect they gave the Doctor a cameo as a nice afterthought! I am all happy! Eee!

Date: 2007-06-09 09:03 pm (UTC)
usuallyhats: The cast of Critical Role sitting round a table playing Dungeons and Dragons (ten martha walk park autumn)
From: [personal profile] usuallyhats
"I'm clever and I'm listening and don't patronise me because people have died, now tell me." Why, yes, Sally, I love you.

Oh yes, this was the line that made me bounce up and down and go "please can we keep her?"

It was just so much fun this week!

Date: 2007-06-09 09:07 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (Default)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
I *love* New Who's usual ability to have such fabulous guest characters, yes. She is rather fantastically wonderful.

Date: 2007-06-09 09:05 pm (UTC)
ext_20950: (don't blink)
From: [identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com
Poor Kathy indeed, but I felt sorrier for the black guy who ended up in the 60s. At least it wasn't Mississipi.

Date: 2007-06-09 09:10 pm (UTC)
ext_17485: (Default)
From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
I do not know at all what we were like in the 60s for race. (Have been doing reading on the history of black people in Britain, but am only at the 18th century, yes.)

Date: 2007-06-09 09:17 pm (UTC)
ext_20950: (Default)
From: [identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com
Welll, I think it depended where you were - London was probably the least bad place to be - and I think the subtext behind "I went into publishing" was "because the police force was still full of racists". It was getting better in London by the end of the 60s, I think (there were a lot of attacks at the beginning of the decade) but Afro-Caribbean immigrants were still very isolated and he would have had a hard time marrying a white woman. OTOH, no lynchings = tiny win.

Date: 2007-06-09 09:24 pm (UTC)
ext_20950: (Default)
From: [identity profile] jacinthsong.livejournal.com
To be fair, I am not very knowledgable either - damn my decision not to do a paper in British C20th social history! It would have been such fun.

Date: 2007-06-10 10:42 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ladyvivien.livejournal.com
He couldn't be in the police anymore! I actually cried at that and wanted to go back and rewrite history. Although he didn't seem like a very good police officer - skiving meetings and chatting up witnesses, god bless the Met, but THAT'S BESIDE THE POINT.

Date: 2007-06-10 12:08 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fly-to-dawn.livejournal.com
...and I thought nothing could be better than HN/FoB...I've awarded the two (three?) stories a joint third place in my personal ranking, hee.

Moffat is the best. Thing. EVAH.

Date: 2007-06-10 12:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fly-to-dawn.livejournal.com
Er, I meant first place in my personal ranking. Whoops.

Date: 2007-06-10 12:22 am (UTC)
gwynnega: (Romana planet gone calapine)
From: [personal profile] gwynnega
Definitely the scariest Who ep! And quite brilliant.

Date: 2007-06-10 02:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eido.livejournal.com
And the Weeping Angels are old as the universe. What a surprise! I suppose we should just be grateful they're not from the Dawn of Time. And they're "the lonliest creatures in the universe," omg! Lonlier than the Doctor, dude!

Steven Moffat has a bit of an obsession, doesn't he? And I do love him for it. The growly faced "lonely" angel images are currently burned into my brain and not even the joint appearances of Jack Harkness and Claudius derailed them.

Although I love how we've gone from Reinette's "Lonely Angel", to "Angels", plural. *will not spec cracky things WILL.NOT.*

Date: 2007-06-10 04:29 am (UTC)
ext_22588: (Exterminatea!)
From: [identity profile] firiel44.livejournal.com
I thought it said 1963 too! It was obscured at first, then the next day the number was uncovered. Is one of the angels a compulsive cleaner, getting wallpaper glue off the wall so we can see Mysterious Messages From The Past?

Next time Moffat writes an episode, I may have to move my couch away from the wall so I can hide behind it, yes. I didn't even notice the lack of Doctoriness because of teh awesome. And I didn't need to sleep tonight, really.

Date: 2007-06-10 10:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-mardy-bum.livejournal.com
Oh oh oh oh!!! How fab were that one! I were just giggling then screaming then giggling then gasping then doing it all over again ~ bloody ace!
And may I Huggy Bear my screen-caps:
http://soup-dragon.blogspot.com/2007/06/and-youll-miss-it.html

Loved the Sally / Cathy thing. Loved he were called 'Laurence Nightingale', loved the whole paradoxical "me handing you this so you can read it I've already seen it and you're ahead of me but you still aren't and haven't so you don't" bits.'

DVD easter eggs! Dare I type it, FTW!

LOL

And the Confidential ep. Oh, words fail me...

MB

Date: 2007-06-11 08:39 pm (UTC)
fyrdrakken: (Ten/Reinette)
From: [personal profile] fyrdrakken
Oh, man, and someone got me thinking about "Love and Monsters" before the weekend, so I was all primed for the contrast of how to go about doing a Doctor-less ep properly. Excellent monster concept, and triple points for using time travel in a clever and plot-advancing way rather than merely as the device for dropping the characters into the setting.

And it seems to me that's a great idea for a fic challenge -- Ten and Martha meeting up with his prior companions in 1969 while they're waiting for the TARDIS to be sent back to them...

Date: 2007-06-12 01:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] moocow1985.livejournal.com
You're not looking at the statues, dudes!

This was the point when I had to stop the tape, get up, and turn on every light in the room. And then I may have almost cried anyway.

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