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I like how we still don't know who the next government is going to be. Is it wrong to hope for Prime Minster Balls just for Cheap Laughs? (Actually though, I would probably vote Labour in a General Election if Harman was in charge.)

Very glad I didn't vote Lib Dem though cause a vote for them would Really Very Much Not have meant a vote to prop up a Tory government. I like how the third and fourth least popular (the SNP, despite winning less seats than the Lib Dems were second in the popular vote) parties in Scotland are going to be in charge probably. Thank you Middle England! I'm not even being entirely sarcastic: the lack of a Scottish mandate for any Tory government will, I suspect, increase nationalist sentiment and should help secure the SNP a second term in Holyrood.

Mostly it's not as bad as I thought it'd be: I was perfectly terrified of a Tory majority but even with the Major Fuck-Ups of Labour in the past few years plus the ridiculous expenses scandal (which I couldn't care less about unless they've actually done something illegal, and think they should be paid a lot more anyway) the Tories are still almost entirely out of Scotland and couldn't win enough support from the rest of the country to secure a majority, so hurrah for that.

Also, many hurrahs for Brighton Pavilion and Barking and Caroline Lucas and Margaret Hodge. It wasn't exactly the funnest election night ever, but those were two most cheering results.

I want voting reform. It really is appalling looking at the results and seeing just how incredibly inequitable the system is. The Tory's won 10.7 million votes and got 306 seats, Labour 8.6 million and 258 seats, while the Lib Dem's won 6.8 million and only got 57. It's a horrid 18th century relic of a system and I want it to go away almost as much as the phrases "public interest" and "stable and secure government."

Date: 2010-05-11 01:00 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] rhipowered.livejournal.com
I do not really buy what the Lib Dems are selling me (mostly because everyone hates immigrants which makes me feel real good).

So basically, what I understand is this: Lib Dems are totally going to screw themselves for life if they do a coalition with the Tories and the Tories say 'haha no reform for you' but can't get a coalition without the LDs. And Labour says 'you know, you all just figure yourselves out, we knew we were going to get shafted'. And everyone else in the country is just like, make up your bleeding minds already, but election reform would lead to less problems of this nature and also David Cameron is a posh boy.

I could be entirely wrong, but that is how I read it.

Date: 2010-05-11 11:32 am (UTC)
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From: [identity profile] calapine.livejournal.com
I do not really buy what the Lib Dems are selling me (mostly because everyone hates immigrants which makes me feel real good).

Yeah, that was...new. And part of the reason I ended up not voting for them.

And, no, the Tories have offered a referendum on voting reform as part of a deal with the Lib Dems (which I doubt would go as far as a coalition.)

Date: 2010-05-11 04:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fatpie42.livejournal.com
What? The Lib Dems don't hate immigrants.

Labour want a points system.
Conservatives want to cap the number allowed.

Lib Dems just want to make sure we know the numbers coming in, that we know how long they are allowed to remain and that immigrants are directed towards areas where there will be work available for them. No stupid points system and no capping. What did I miss?

(Please don't take this the wrong way. If I've misunderstood something, I want to be corrected. I'm just making my understanding of the situation clear so you have a better idea where any possible misunderstanding lies. I'm certainly not claiming to be an expert.)

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