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[carmen_lj]

Somehow the Internets have magically provided me with the very thing I've been craving (but way too lazy to do myself), a Doctor Who prompt community in the form of dwpromptmeme. And not just for fic either, but for all sorts of fanworks! And people are not just leaving those wee one word prompts either (which there's nought wrong with but they never spark anything interesting in my head) but making helpfully long sentences, yay.

Here is a sad fact: I find this cracktastic theory about the origin of River Song appallingly appealing. I HATE MYSELF. But it's sort of sweet whilst being enormously fucked-up. It is not as good as her being the TARDIS, but y'know.* (I don't mind who she is, just so long as it doesn't horribly complicate the joys of shipping Doctor/River. Unhorrible complications are fine, however.)

Yesterday, I found out about DC Universe Online. This is a very bad thing. For it is an MMORPG. And self does not cope well with MMORPGs. They do awful things like steal all the time and make me forget about sleep and food. BUT LOOK AT THE TRAILER. I don't even like DC and I'm all a-flail. And then I remembered that about this time last year I started playing Star Trek Online and that turned out alright (mostly cause it was pretty shit and I gave it up after a couple of months, but still. I got to be an Andorian, yay) and quietly trying to justify maybe trying this one? Just until the nice Star Wars one comes out which I'm allowed because it's set in the one bit of Star Wars I'm fannish about and, um, yeah. Probably it will be fine. Tralala.

*This is a lie. Whilst it makes Perfect Sense in my head that River is the TARDIS, I am sort of weirdly anti Doctor/TARDIS. I have no idea why. I KNOW I AM WRONG. But there you go.

Comments

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

I like Doctor/TARDIS. But if I were opposed to this ship, I can think of a couple of reasons:

1) it's a totally unbalanced relationship, and he abuses* her liek woah. So that's a squick.

2) it's not even clear that she's a living thing, much less the same species.

3) its just too clever by half. And cutesy.

*unless he doesn't. ... his utter failure to fix the chameleon circuit might be respecting her autonomy. *shrugs*

So yeah. It's just this shy of canon, afaic, but there are problematic shadows all around it. So you have my sympathies.

[airie-fairy.livejournal.com]

Damnit you don't show that trailer to someone in the middle of a Batman rewatch. It's their voices! Omg Harley is there! I don't even play video games, but holy crap tempting.

I'm sort of with you on Doctor/TARDIS. I mean, I'm okay with this love of a proverbial sexless marriage that they have, but for me it doesn't go so far as to wanting to like read shippy fic about him doing things with the console or like mindsexing with the heart or whatever.

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

I'm sort of with you on Doctor/TARDIS. [...] it doesn't go so far as to wanting to like read shippy fic about him doing things with the console or like mindsexing with the heart

ooh... ick. I should hope NOT.

But this leads to an important question for me, so that I can correctly and non-squickily answer the question: "Do you 'ship ____/___?"

Does "'ship'" always imply lusty, sexual feelings on the part of one in the hypothetical pair (or threesome), even if they're not acted on?

Or can 'ship be as broad in meaning as its parent word "relationship?"

[airie-fairy.livejournal.com]

I think of ship as a fannish term for romantic/sexual, usually, but like I said, in a broader sexless marriage kind of way, I'm totally into the Doctor/TARDIS transcendental love. Whereas I think for some it does go further, whether half-jokingly or more.

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

There needs to be a word for: deeper than "platonic," more meaningful than "friend," but not sexual, or romantically inclined.

If there were a word for that, I think that would be Doctor/TARDIS's relationship.

*nods*

[prof-pangaea.livejournal.com]

I KNOW I AM WRONG. But there you go.

well, as long as you know you are wrong. very, very wrong.

[londonkds.livejournal.com]

I have been avoiding all spec about River out of fear of coming across somebody going "and she turns out to be villainous and we were meant to see she was an evil bitch all along and then Rose comes back and shoots her".

[calapine.livejournal.com]

I think that died out a bit after Forest of the Dead. There was some awesome fic! And by awesome, I mean my brain suffered with the wtf.

[lil-shepherd.livejournal.com]

I am a DC girl (at least through the 50s, 80s, 90s and early 01s) but, thank goodness, not into any kind of gaming so I'm safe!

It's an interesting theory...

Edited to change the icon to something a bit more appropriate.

[sabotabby]

I like River is the TARDIS, myself. Or River is the Last of the Time Ladies, because I want there to be Time Ladies. I am less keen on her being Amy and Rory's baby for some reason, for fully irrational, timey-wimey-related reasons.

[capriuni.livejournal.com]

I am less keen on her being Amy and Rory's baby for some reason

After letting this idea sit in my head for a while, I think I'm less keen on River being Amy and Rory's daughter for narrative reasons. It just seems to make the whole sphere of this story far too small, and self-reflective, if you know what I mean.

It's better than her turning out to be evil from the dawn of time, or the Valeyard, or somesuch. But still...

If she turns out to be the TARDIS, than that's better, because the TARDIS has her own mysterious past, and was old even when the Doctor first "borrowed" her.

But really, if I had my druthers, she would turn out to be: "none of the things we've considered yet," as Moffat promises. As long as she doesn't turn out to be a baddie, and I'm pushed into not admiring her anymore... even if that's hinted at, now.